Comments on: Buddhism or Buddhisms? Rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Tue, 21 May 2013 22:08:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: A Buddhist view on what’s new http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-289241 A Buddhist view on what’s new Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:37:15 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-289241 [...] somewhat puzzling news, Dr. Payne’s follow-up to last week’s OUP blog post about the rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories has been posted. I gave a pretty thorough post critiquing aspects of the first post and not much [...] [...] somewhat puzzling news, Dr. Payne’s follow-up to last week’s OUP blog post about the rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories has been posted. I gave a pretty thorough post critiquing aspects of the first post and not much [...]

]]> By: OUPblog » Blog Archive » Buddhism or Buddhisms? Lexical consequences of geo-political categories http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-288407 OUPblog » Blog Archive » Buddhism or Buddhisms? Lexical consequences of geo-political categories Mon, 20 Aug 2012 12:30:08 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-288407 [...] a previous post, we argued that the geo-political categories commonly employed in both popular and academic [...] [...] a previous post, we argued that the geo-political categories commonly employed in both popular and academic [...]

]]> By: Sean Robsville http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-287388 Sean Robsville Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:12:44 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-287388 Perhaps all Buddhisms have as their foundation just four statements about the world, with all the accreted political and cultural stuff just froth on the beer: http://rational-buddhism.blogspot.com/2011/05/rational-buddhism.html Perhaps all Buddhisms have as their foundation just four statements about the world, with all the accreted political and cultural stuff just froth on the beer: http://rational-buddhism.blogspot.com/2011/05/rational-buddhism.html

]]> By: Buddhism or Buddhisms? The Hegemony of Postmodern Rhetoric http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-287114 Buddhism or Buddhisms? The Hegemony of Postmodern Rhetoric Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:11:24 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-287114 [...] been on my mind.This week, the blog for Oxford University Press posted an article called “Buddhism or Buddhisms? Rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories” by Dr. Richard Payne, the Dean of the Institute of Buddhist Studies at the Graduate [...] [...] been on my mind.This week, the blog for Oxford University Press posted an article called “Buddhism or Buddhisms? Rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories” by Dr. Richard Payne, the Dean of the Institute of Buddhist Studies at the Graduate [...]

]]> By: rhetorical consequences « 如 (thus) 是 http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-287076 rhetorical consequences « 如 (thus) 是 Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:46:06 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-287076 [...] Richard Payne, “Buddhism or Buddhisms? Rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories“ [...] [...] Richard Payne, “Buddhism or Buddhisms? Rhetorical consequences of geo-political categories“ [...]

]]> By: Henry Frummer http://blog.oup.com/2012/08/buddhism-rhetorical-consequence-geo-political-category/#comment-286547 Henry Frummer Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:50:00 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=27491#comment-286547 Sad to see DT Sukuki taken so badly out of context. He was talking about the genesis of Zen that it was an extension of Mahayana Buddhism. So in a real sense, he is saying that the same Buddhism as in India was carried to China and then the Chinese created new techniques that were eventually perfected in Japan. (The other strains dying out, also what you left out.) He was actually saying the opposite of what you were saying he was. He would actually agree with you. He does not believe in a Socio-political view of Buddhism but a Buddhism that transcends both time and location. See his famous exchanges with Hu-Shih. Interestingly, Hu-Shih was accusing him of the exact opposite position. Yours, actually. There is some use for the term Indian Buddhism, Chinese Buddhism etc. Even though the goal of most Buddhists are exactly the same, the techniques differ. It also recognizes that fact that Buddhism did thrive and develop in other cultural environments. These and other terms are useful in context. Misapplication of any designation is a problem. In a way, it all sounds like a straw man argument to me. This is especially true of about your reference to the PRC. It is not clear that anyone makes the calm that you are proposing. I guess I missed the problem that you were trying to solve. Sad to see DT Sukuki taken so badly out of context. He was talking about the genesis of Zen that it was an extension of Mahayana Buddhism. So in a real sense, he is saying that the same Buddhism as in India was carried to China and then the Chinese created new techniques that were eventually perfected in Japan. (The other strains dying out, also what you left out.) He was actually saying the opposite of what you were saying he was. He would actually agree with you. He does not believe in a Socio-political view of Buddhism but a Buddhism that transcends both time and location. See his famous exchanges with Hu-Shih. Interestingly, Hu-Shih was accusing him of the exact opposite position. Yours, actually.

There is some use for the term Indian Buddhism, Chinese Buddhism etc. Even though the goal of most Buddhists are exactly the same, the techniques differ. It also recognizes that fact that Buddhism did thrive and develop in other cultural environments. These and other terms are useful in context. Misapplication of any designation is a problem. In a way, it all sounds like a straw man argument to me. This is especially true of about your reference to the PRC. It is not clear that anyone makes the calm that you are proposing.

I guess I missed the problem that you were trying to solve.

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