Comments on: Monthly Gleanings: July 2010 http://blog.oup.com/2010/07/july-2010/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Tue, 21 May 2013 16:04:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Randall Hooser http://blog.oup.com/2010/07/july-2010/#comment-198608 Randall Hooser Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:03:37 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=10317#comment-198608 Prof Liberman, I know you are a busy man trying to discover legitimate new truths and meanings about the origins of the words in the English language. Regrettably Ms Easton of IHS posted a reference regarding "What is a Hoosier?" as excerpted from “The Meanings of Hoosier – 175 Years and Counting.” This article was prepared by Steve Haller, senior director, IHS Collections, which appeared in the fall 2008 issue of Traces. My view is that it is as incomplete as most other references in academic Indiana's pursuit of Hoosier folklore. Long live Indiana's favorite parlor game. In fact my website started the year count of the unresolved "What is a Hoosier?" mystery back in the late 90's at 168 and now of course we are approaching 178 years of Indiana's academic failure. Alas if only columnist's Dave Berry's words a few years ago had inspired Indiana's academic class when he used the "S - word" (stupid) in reference to their state moniker and their failure to find its original meaning. http://www.voy.com/6367/4/11643.html As long as academic Indiana balks, "Whose Your Daddy" lives. Academic Purdue / "non IU others" are excluded of course from this task. Mr. Haller also apparently ignored your post of July 2008 when he failed to include the Hauser / Hooser family theory as published in April 1999 by IU's own Dr. Gyula Decsy. One has to wonder what research Mr. Haller, the senior director of IHS collections managed to accomplish in the fall of 2008, when he failed to reference an academic journal from Indiana University almost a decade before. I guess because they were a linguistics academic journal and a linguistic blog, so they were not deemed appropriate. The Hoosier Historians alone want to botch this effort (original "Hoosier" definition please -- my reference of choice would be the Dictionary of Early American Words and Phrases by Random House). They are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams. I would like to think Ms Easton has read Mr. Hallers work before she recommended it above, since he clearly did not deal with your posts of July 2008 and 2010. So my question is why did she recommend it? After 178 years of IHS's academic malfeasance on this topic any "Five and Dime" in Indiana has a pamphlet on the tongue and cheek entries for "What is a Hoosier?". Mr. Haller simply repeated them in 2008. One can't quite understand why Eli Lily spends so much on this organization for historical research. Ponderous Prof Liberman,
I know you are a busy man trying to discover legitimate new truths and meanings about the origins of the words in the English language. Regrettably Ms Easton of IHS posted a reference regarding “What is a Hoosier?” as excerpted from “The Meanings of Hoosier – 175 Years and Counting.” This article was prepared by Steve Haller, senior director, IHS Collections, which appeared in the fall 2008 issue of Traces. My view is that it is as incomplete as most other references in academic Indiana’s pursuit of Hoosier folklore. Long live Indiana’s favorite parlor game.

In fact my website started the year count of the unresolved “What is a Hoosier?” mystery back in the late 90′s at 168 and now of course we are approaching 178 years of Indiana’s academic failure. Alas if only columnist’s Dave Berry’s words a few years ago had inspired Indiana’s academic class when he used the “S – word” (stupid) in reference to their state moniker and their failure to find its original meaning.

http://www.voy.com/6367/4/11643.html

As long as academic Indiana balks, “Whose Your Daddy” lives. Academic Purdue / “non IU others” are excluded of course from this task.

Mr. Haller also apparently ignored your post of July 2008 when he failed to include the Hauser / Hooser family theory as published in April 1999 by IU’s own Dr. Gyula Decsy. One has to wonder what research Mr. Haller, the senior director of IHS collections managed to accomplish in the fall of 2008, when he failed to reference an academic journal from Indiana University almost a decade before. I guess because they were a linguistics academic journal and a linguistic blog, so they were not deemed appropriate. The Hoosier Historians alone want to botch this effort (original “Hoosier” definition please — my reference of choice would be the Dictionary of Early American Words and Phrases by Random House). They are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.

I would like to think Ms Easton has read Mr. Hallers work before she recommended it above, since he clearly did not deal with your posts of July 2008 and 2010. So my question is why did she recommend it? After 178 years of IHS’s academic malfeasance on this topic any “Five and Dime” in Indiana has a pamphlet on the tongue and cheek entries for “What is a Hoosier?”. Mr. Haller simply repeated them in 2008.

One can’t quite understand why Eli Lily spends so much on this organization for historical research. Ponderous

]]> By: Stephen Goranson http://blog.oup.com/2010/07/july-2010/#comment-167587 Stephen Goranson Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:58:25 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=10317#comment-167587 The kibosh, based on some of the earliest uses, plausibly appears to refer to an instrument for striking blows, an instrument held in the hand. The kurbash is an instrument for striking blows, too. The non-rhotic Cockney usage could account for the lost r. Three, and possibly four (pending an interlibrary loan), publications link the kibosh and the animal skin stick or whip. The case may seem "thin" when not fully presented. To state it is not "definitive" does not state what it is. We agree in seeking the source in a foreign word, but differ on ruling out those you consider too "exotic." The kurbash was certainly known in many English publications. We agree that the Portland cement association is a later development. Thanks. The kibosh, based on some of the earliest uses, plausibly appears to refer to an instrument for striking blows, an instrument held in the hand. The kurbash is an instrument for striking blows, too. The non-rhotic Cockney usage could account for the lost r. Three, and possibly four (pending an interlibrary loan), publications link the kibosh and the animal skin stick or whip. The case may seem “thin” when not fully presented. To state it is not “definitive” does not state what it is. We agree in seeking the source in a foreign word, but differ on ruling out those you consider too “exotic.” The kurbash was certainly known in many English publications. We agree that the Portland cement association is a later development. Thanks.

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]]> By: Kim http://blog.oup.com/2010/07/july-2010/#comment-167334 Kim Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:14:56 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=10317#comment-167334 You might be interested in this excerpt from the article "What Is A Hoosier?" published in the Indiana Historical Society's Traces magazine. www.indianahistory.org/feature-details/what-is-a-hoosier I'd be happy to send you the entire piece if you'd like. You can e-mail me at keaston@indianahistory.org. Kim Easton Communications Manager, Indiana Historical Society You might be interested in this excerpt from the article “What Is A Hoosier?” published in the Indiana Historical Society’s Traces magazine.

http://www.indianahistory.org/feature-details/what-is-a-hoosier

I’d be happy to send you the entire piece if you’d like. You can e-mail me at keaston@indianahistory.org.

Kim Easton
Communications Manager, Indiana Historical Society

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