http://blog.oup.com/2009/06/prop-8/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:01:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 http://blog.oup.com/2009/06/prop-8/#comment-152289 Chuck Davis Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:31:42 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=4691#comment-152289 The children angle is always troubling. I've heard the answer back, but not loud enough. If gay marriage and same sex exposure is so troubling, then why didn't the opposite effect occur with we gay/lesbian children? I mean, we were given a heavy dose of hetero growing up, some of us even bought it and attempted hetero lives only to create disruption for others due to our internal (and external) lies about who we are. That damage is out there, the damage to us as individual who were told by society that we're not supposed to be who we are, and the damage on the ones we married, had children with, extended families and loved ones. I for one would have appreciated knowing so long ago that there are people who are inclined to lives their own sex, it is a small segment of the population but an "ordinary" one. I hope my three sons feel that they are open to find out who they are. I abhor those who ask them to do what 1960's and 1970's society taught me - pretend to be something else. You are not welcome here. Well, I am here, and I have to teach my kids that Dad is OK despite what everyone says, what a nominal voter majority says(not even total, just those who bothered to vote). I guess they all know what's better for my kids than I do anyway, right? The children angle is always troubling. I’ve heard the answer back, but not loud enough. If gay marriage and same sex exposure is so troubling, then why didn’t the opposite effect occur with we gay/lesbian children? I mean, we were given a heavy dose of hetero growing up, some of us even bought it and attempted hetero lives only to create disruption for others due to our internal (and external) lies about who we are. That damage is out there, the damage to us as individual who were told by society that we’re not supposed to be who we are, and the damage on the ones we married, had children with, extended families and loved ones. I for one would have appreciated knowing so long ago that there are people who are inclined to lives their own sex, it is a small segment of the population but an “ordinary” one. I hope my three sons feel that they are open to find out who they are. I abhor those who ask them to do what 1960′s and 1970′s society taught me – pretend to be something else. You are not welcome here. Well, I am here, and I have to teach my kids that Dad is OK despite what everyone says, what a nominal voter majority says(not even total, just those who bothered to vote). I guess they all know what’s better for my kids than I do anyway, right?

]]> http://blog.oup.com/2009/06/prop-8/#comment-152023 fern Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:08:02 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=4691#comment-152023 After the oral argument my feelings where that the SC would do all it legally could to side with the no on 8. The ability to amend the constitution is a great freedom. The only problem is that the yes on 8 were in a dirty tricks campaign lying and misleading voters, using religion as a main argument, using churches to prep the voters. This is where I wonder whether the voters are mature enough to fully understand their actions and their vote, do they deserve this freedom? After the oral argument my feelings where that the SC would do all it legally could to side with the no on 8. The ability to amend the constitution is a great freedom. The only problem is that the yes on 8 were in a dirty tricks campaign lying and misleading voters, using religion as a main argument, using churches to prep the voters. This is where I wonder whether the voters are mature enough to fully understand their actions and their vote, do they deserve this freedom?

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