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	<title>Comments on: A Letter to Charles Darwin from Jerry Coyne</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Dear Old Darwin&#8221;: Hooker-Darwin correspondence to be published &#171; Why Evolution Is True</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2009/01/darwin_letter/#comment-372371</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Dear Old Darwin&#8221;: Hooker-Darwin correspondence to be published &#171; Why Evolution Is True</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about how evolutionary biology had progressed since his time. The printed version of my letter is here, and the BBC show where I read it is here. Letters between the two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Consider the Lowly Bird &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2009/01/darwin_letter/#comment-150138</link>
		<dc:creator>Consider the Lowly Bird &#124; Tangled Up in Blue Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 00:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Letter to Charles Darwin from Jerry Coyne (oup.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: johalf</title>
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		<dc:creator>johalf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent article, ça fou les boules!</description>
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		<title>By: Letter to Charles Darwin &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letter to Charles Darwin &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a letter I wrote to Charles Darwin that was broadcast this month on BBC 4.  You can find it here.    This entry was written by whyevolutionistrue and posted on January 22, 2009 at 7:44 pm and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is a letter I wrote to Charles Darwin that was broadcast this month on BBC 4.  You can find it here.    This entry was written by whyevolutionistrue and posted on January 22, 2009 at 7:44 pm and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Doole</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2009/01/darwin_letter/#comment-149047</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick said; &#039;By the way, this comes from a man that does not attend church&#039;.

Maybe not, but it does come from a fomenting idiot.

First of all, atheism simply means one who does not believe in a god or gods. Your rant is about rational secularists and scientists. And their view is the superior one because their beliefs are based on mutually self-supporting evidence. No scientist or rational secularist has ever claimed to have all the answers and will happily admit to gaps in their knowledge. They will not, however, try to plug those gaps with notions of a supernatural creator, as that would be intellectually irresponsible. 

Every scientist is willing to say what would convince them of the existence of a creator, i.e. evidence of some kind that could be corroborated, but the faithful rarely if ever say what would persuade them that their faith is mistaken.

As to your ludicrous comments about &#039;Godless societies&#039;, what&#039;s wrong with San Francisco and Berkeley? The biggest problem in the Netherlands right now is Islamic fundamentalism, which has resulted in the murder of a film-maker, the persecution and exile of the film-maker&#039;s female friend and threats to a cartoonist and anyone who published his cartoons. And what&#039;s wrong with London and France?

Among the most &#039;Godless&#039; societies on Earth are Sweden, Denmark and Norway and it is well documented that these coutries have very low crime rates, high levels of social equality and are among the most generous givers to charity.

Obama may be relatively inexperienced, but he is intelligent, thoughtful and articulate. He also has a respect for science and evidence. He also believes that religion should be a private concern and should have no place in public life. And rightly so.

Sarah Palin may or may not have had more experience, but she is an ignorant, arrogant, gun-toting young earth creationist who believes in the Rapture and that women should be denied terminations even if they were raped by members of their own family and as such is unfit for public office.

Even blinkered, ignorant people like you are entitled to have their say, but rest assured that your ludicrous views will be shot down in flames by those of us who have half a clue what&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick said; &#8216;By the way, this comes from a man that does not attend church&#8217;.</p>
<p>Maybe not, but it does come from a fomenting idiot.</p>
<p>First of all, atheism simply means one who does not believe in a god or gods. Your rant is about rational secularists and scientists. And their view is the superior one because their beliefs are based on mutually self-supporting evidence. No scientist or rational secularist has ever claimed to have all the answers and will happily admit to gaps in their knowledge. They will not, however, try to plug those gaps with notions of a supernatural creator, as that would be intellectually irresponsible. </p>
<p>Every scientist is willing to say what would convince them of the existence of a creator, i.e. evidence of some kind that could be corroborated, but the faithful rarely if ever say what would persuade them that their faith is mistaken.</p>
<p>As to your ludicrous comments about &#8216;Godless societies&#8217;, what&#8217;s wrong with San Francisco and Berkeley? The biggest problem in the Netherlands right now is Islamic fundamentalism, which has resulted in the murder of a film-maker, the persecution and exile of the film-maker&#8217;s female friend and threats to a cartoonist and anyone who published his cartoons. And what&#8217;s wrong with London and France?</p>
<p>Among the most &#8216;Godless&#8217; societies on Earth are Sweden, Denmark and Norway and it is well documented that these coutries have very low crime rates, high levels of social equality and are among the most generous givers to charity.</p>
<p>Obama may be relatively inexperienced, but he is intelligent, thoughtful and articulate. He also has a respect for science and evidence. He also believes that religion should be a private concern and should have no place in public life. And rightly so.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin may or may not have had more experience, but she is an ignorant, arrogant, gun-toting young earth creationist who believes in the Rapture and that women should be denied terminations even if they were raped by members of their own family and as such is unfit for public office.</p>
<p>Even blinkered, ignorant people like you are entitled to have their say, but rest assured that your ludicrous views will be shot down in flames by those of us who have half a clue what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Darwiniana &#187; Wrong title for Darwin&#8217;s tome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darwiniana &#187; Wrong title for Darwin&#8217;s tome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Letter to Charles Darwin  All told, the resilience of your ideas is remarkable. But that is not to say that you got everything right. On The Origin of Species was, admit it, a misnomer. You described correctly how a single species changes through time, but you came a cropper trying to explain how one species splits into two. Speciation is a significant problem, because it underpins the branching process that has yielded the tree of life – that extraordinary vision you bequeathed us of the natural world as one vast genealogy. Speciation is the key to understanding how, starting with the very first species on earth, evolution has resulted in the 50 million species that are thought to inhabit our planet today. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Letter to Charles Darwin  All told, the resilience of your ideas is remarkable. But that is not to say that you got everything right. On The Origin of Species was, admit it, a misnomer. You described correctly how a single species changes through time, but you came a cropper trying to explain how one species splits into two. Speciation is a significant problem, because it underpins the branching process that has yielded the tree of life – that extraordinary vision you bequeathed us of the natural world as one vast genealogy. Speciation is the key to understanding how, starting with the very first species on earth, evolution has resulted in the 50 million species that are thought to inhabit our planet today. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Wainwright and Mr. Darwin,

I find it interesting how it is often the atheist that portrays himself as the superior one yet he still leaves gaps- gaps in our  history (evolutionary and otherwise) that science has yet to answer. Why is it that the elitist atheists believe they have the last, and correct word on most subjects? And look how Godless societies continue to crumble. Take a look at the cities of San Francisco, Berkeley, as well as the Netherlands, parts of London, France and so forth. Look at what comes out of Hollywood. As with those holding up Barrack Obama as the second coming, some people just hear what they want. I find the same mindset that blocks out any religious belief is the same that wouldn&#039;t recognize Obama as having almost no experience. Sarah Palin actually has more experience yet she was criticized by the socialists for not having enough. It appears far-left liberal atheists think alike in that they use only the facts they want and leave out what might hurt their agenda.

I&#039;m not defending creationism or denouncing Darwin-far from it. I just wanted to point out how some minds are filled with self ‘righteousness’ while their socialist lifestyles continue to deteriorate. 

By the way, this comes from a man that does not attend church.</description>
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<p>I find it interesting how it is often the atheist that portrays himself as the superior one yet he still leaves gaps- gaps in our  history (evolutionary and otherwise) that science has yet to answer. Why is it that the elitist atheists believe they have the last, and correct word on most subjects? And look how Godless societies continue to crumble. Take a look at the cities of San Francisco, Berkeley, as well as the Netherlands, parts of London, France and so forth. Look at what comes out of Hollywood. As with those holding up Barrack Obama as the second coming, some people just hear what they want. I find the same mindset that blocks out any religious belief is the same that wouldn&#8217;t recognize Obama as having almost no experience. Sarah Palin actually has more experience yet she was criticized by the socialists for not having enough. It appears far-left liberal atheists think alike in that they use only the facts they want and leave out what might hurt their agenda.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending creationism or denouncing Darwin-far from it. I just wanted to point out how some minds are filled with self ‘righteousness’ while their socialist lifestyles continue to deteriorate. </p>
<p>By the way, this comes from a man that does not attend church.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Milton Wainwright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Milton Wainwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my letter which I would add to Jerry Coynes&#039;

Dear Charles.I suppose you are embarressed by all the hype and nonsense written about you in this your bicentennial year. After all, as both you and Alfred Russel Wallace admitted(and T.H.Huxley agreed) neither of you originated the theory of natural selection. You said,if you remember, that Patrick Matthew came up with &quot;precisely&quot; the same idea some 25 years earlier. You also know that all of the ideas you put into your famous book were published before 1857(search Google for&quot;wainwrightscience&quot; for details).You did an excellent job of bringing all these ideas together and adding some examples. It&#039;s unfortunate though that you &quot;forgot&quot; to refer to the work of others in your opus magnum!(OK you mentioned some in the 4th edition).I suppose you still regret the way that your friends denied Wallace the 1857 priority on natural selection, a vey ungentlemanly agreement as you pointed out in your letters. You must also be saddened by how the extreme atheists have taken you as an icon of their beliefs which, as an agnostic like me, you never shared.

Happy Birthday Nevertheless,
Dr Milton Wainwright,Dept.Molecular Biology  and Biotechnology, University of Sheffield, UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my letter which I would add to Jerry Coynes&#8217;</p>
<p>Dear Charles.I suppose you are embarressed by all the hype and nonsense written about you in this your bicentennial year. After all, as both you and Alfred Russel Wallace admitted(and T.H.Huxley agreed) neither of you originated the theory of natural selection. You said,if you remember, that Patrick Matthew came up with &#8220;precisely&#8221; the same idea some 25 years earlier. You also know that all of the ideas you put into your famous book were published before 1857(search Google for&#8221;wainwrightscience&#8221; for details).You did an excellent job of bringing all these ideas together and adding some examples. It&#8217;s unfortunate though that you &#8220;forgot&#8221; to refer to the work of others in your opus magnum!(OK you mentioned some in the 4th edition).I suppose you still regret the way that your friends denied Wallace the 1857 priority on natural selection, a vey ungentlemanly agreement as you pointed out in your letters. You must also be saddened by how the extreme atheists have taken you as an icon of their beliefs which, as an agnostic like me, you never shared.</p>
<p>Happy Birthday Nevertheless,<br />
Dr Milton Wainwright,Dept.Molecular Biology  and Biotechnology, University of Sheffield, UK.</p>
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