Comments on: Winning by Losing http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Sun, 19 May 2013 05:35:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-210777 The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:46:48 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-210777 [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...] [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...]

]]> By: The Inevitable 'It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012' Piece Has Been Written http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-210763 The Inevitable 'It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012' Piece Has Been Written Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:15:54 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-210763 [...] a pretty standard subgenre of political thinking -- you'll find all sorts of arguments like "Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority," and "It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won," and "Obama would be better off if he [...] [...] a pretty standard subgenre of political thinking — you'll find all sorts of arguments like "Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority," and "It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won," and "Obama would be better off if he [...]

]]> By: The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written | Blog Of The Year http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-210760 The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written | Blog Of The Year Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:30:18 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-210760 [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...] [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...]

]]> By: The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written | The State of the Union http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-210759 The Inevitable ‘It Would Be Smart For The GOP To Lose In 2012′ Piece Has Been Written | The State of the Union Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:28:28 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-210759 [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...] [...] subgenre of political thinking — you’ll find all sorts of arguments like “Obama would be better off without a filibuster-proof Senate majority,” and “It would be a good thing for liberals if Bush won,” and “Obama would [...]

]]> By: Dave Burton http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-148300 Dave Burton Thu, 27 Nov 2008 06:37:44 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-148300 The Senate Democrats also can usually count on the vote of Republican-In-Name-Only ("RINO") Olympia Snow. So if Martin beats Chambliss the Democrats will effectively have a filibuster-proof Senate even without the Minnesota Democratic machine stealing Coleman's seat. If the Dems steal Minnesota, and Martin beats Chambliss too, then the Democrats will effectively have a 61-39 majority, counting Snow as the Democrat that she really is. Only if BOTH Coleman and Chambliss hold onto their seats will the GOP have a realistic ability to use a filibuster to stop ANYTHING that the Democrats want to do. Dave Burton The Senate Democrats also can usually count on the vote of Republican-In-Name-Only (“RINO”) Olympia Snow. So if Martin beats Chambliss the Democrats will effectively have a filibuster-proof Senate even without the Minnesota Democratic machine stealing Coleman’s seat. If the Dems steal Minnesota, and Martin beats Chambliss too, then the Democrats will effectively have a 61-39 majority, counting Snow as the Democrat that she really is.

Only if BOTH Coleman and Chambliss hold onto their seats will the GOP have a realistic ability to use a filibuster to stop ANYTHING that the Democrats want to do.

Dave Burton

]]> By: Bernard J. Sussman http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-148132 Bernard J. Sussman Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:13:22 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-148132 The mere presence of 60th Democrat in the Senate may not work the alchemy of making it "filibuster proof". There is no assurance that, when a filibuster is attempted, every Republican will vote to allow it and/or that every Democrat will vote to stop it. The mere presence of 60th Democrat in the Senate may not work the alchemy of making it “filibuster proof”. There is no assurance that, when a filibuster is attempted, every Republican will vote to allow it and/or that every Democrat will vote to stop it.

]]> By: Gage Slusser Jr. http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-148097 Gage Slusser Jr. Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:09:38 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-148097 Karmic blow-back . . . that's the problem. If the Republicans were left totally out of the picture they wouldn't get a chance to help remedy the Bush Administration disaster. If the Democrats were imprecise in setting a line between justice and revenge, it could further unbalance America's public decision making capacity. There might be a genius hidden beneath the hideous coils of Conservatism. Pariah status won't help that, arguably hypothetical, genius emerge. Kiss the frog, see what happens. Karmic blow-back . . . that’s the problem. If the Republicans were left totally out of the picture they wouldn’t get a chance to help remedy the Bush Administration disaster.

If the Democrats were imprecise in setting a line between justice and revenge, it could further unbalance America’s public decision making capacity. There might be a genius hidden beneath the hideous coils of Conservatism. Pariah status won’t help that, arguably hypothetical, genius emerge.

Kiss the frog, see what happens.

]]> By: Avant Strangel http://blog.oup.com/2008/11/filibuster-proof/#comment-148095 Avant Strangel Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:56:45 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2343#comment-148095 Yeah like ANYONE wants a handicap to not be able to do their job. Obama can simply say no. Republicans weren't complaining when they could do whatever they wanted. Now they want checks and balances. Sorry Republicans had their chance to set that example for the last EIGHT YEARS!! And they didn't. Yeah like ANYONE wants a handicap to not be able to do their job. Obama can simply say no.

Republicans weren’t complaining when they could do whatever they wanted. Now they want checks and balances. Sorry Republicans had their chance to set that example for the last EIGHT YEARS!! And they didn’t.

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