Comments on: Torture: Israel’s expanding export industry http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/ Introducing brilliant authors to the blogosphere. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:43:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rationalising the worst side | Antony Loewenstein http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/comment-page-1/#comment-147797 Rationalising the worst side | Antony Loewenstein Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:33:22 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2131#comment-147797 [...] One of Israel’s primary exports: torture. [...] [...] One of Israel’s primary exports: torture. [...]

]]> By: Absalom http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/comment-page-1/#comment-147432 Absalom Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:24:18 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2131#comment-147432 So, we're told by Abe Bird that some Arab states torture worse than the Israelis? Great, and Arabs in turn can say that North Korea is even worse, and the North Koreans can say that Stalin was worse - so as long as you don't torture like the Nazis you're fine? The human rights declarations and treaties came, to a large extent, as a response to the atrocities of WWII. "Never again" - they all said. Now Israeli interrogators, judges and academics seek a modification: "Never again - unless there's a ticking bomb." I'm sure some terrorist would be happy to adopt this formula, or at least its underlying morality - that atrocities may be justified if the situation is extreme enough. So, we’re told by Abe Bird that some Arab states torture worse than the Israelis? Great, and Arabs in turn can say that North Korea is even worse, and the North Koreans can say that Stalin was worse – so as long as you don’t torture like the Nazis you’re fine?
The human rights declarations and treaties came, to a large extent, as a response to the atrocities of WWII. “Never again” – they all said. Now Israeli interrogators, judges and academics seek a modification: “Never again – unless there’s a ticking bomb.” I’m sure some terrorist would be happy to adopt this formula, or at least its underlying morality – that atrocities may be justified if the situation is extreme enough.

]]> By: GT http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/comment-page-1/#comment-147431 GT Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:55:31 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2131#comment-147431 Oh, that's right "Hilton". That's why many Palestinian prisoners died in Israel prisons - oops, could not handle the excitement, enjoyment and luxury life! This explains it, because most of them are children and women. Gibnar, thanks - you are reminding us of the fact that cruel, non-humanized full of hate, people still exist. Worst when their actions are justified by academics who are supposed to be our educators on how to be civilized and human! Oh, that’s right “Hilton”. That’s why many Palestinian prisoners died in Israel prisons – oops, could not handle the excitement, enjoyment and luxury life! This explains it, because most of them are children and women.

Gibnar, thanks – you are reminding us of the fact that cruel, non-humanized full of hate, people still exist. Worst when their actions are justified by academics who are supposed to be our educators on how to be civilized and human!

]]> By: Abe Bird http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/comment-page-1/#comment-147427 Abe Bird Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:02:18 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2131#comment-147427 Israel doesn't torture Arab terrorists as a whole, but only in critical situation of "ticking bomb" as said when there is close and sure terror attack on process. And even in these kind of cases it's not a real torture but as described as "moderate physical pressure” which it is really moderate in any category. Arab Muslims agencies and European agencies act more cruelly then the General Security Service. Arab murderous terrorists have the best prison conditions one can aspire. They live in their own groups, eat fresh food, pray, play, watching Arabic TV and even study in the Israeli open university for BA, MA and Doctorate. Just Hilton! Israel doesn’t torture Arab terrorists as a whole, but only in critical situation of “ticking bomb” as said when there is close and sure terror attack on process. And even in these kind of cases it’s not a real torture but as described as “moderate physical pressure” which it is really moderate in any category. Arab Muslims agencies and European agencies act more cruelly then the General Security Service.
Arab murderous terrorists have the best prison conditions one can aspire. They live in their own groups, eat fresh food, pray, play, watching Arabic TV and even study in the Israeli open university for BA, MA and Doctorate. Just Hilton!

]]> By: Psyche, Science, and Society » The epidemic of Israeli torture rationalization http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/torture/comment-page-1/#comment-147419 Psyche, Science, and Society » The epidemic of Israeli torture rationalization Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:48:53 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2131#comment-147419 [...] Ginbar writes of the epidemic of Israeli academics rationalizing “to torture torture,” thus providing [...] [...] Ginbar writes of the epidemic of Israeli academics rationalizing “to torture torture,” thus providing [...]

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