Comments on: Guilt Societies and Shame Societies, or, Shame and Guilt from an Etymological Point of View, With Some Observations on Sham and Scam Thrown in for Good Measure (Part 1: Shame) http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/guilt_shame/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Wed, 22 May 2013 15:58:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Jouni Sakari Kemppinen http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/guilt_shame/#comment-147777 Jouni Sakari Kemppinen Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:49:27 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2088#comment-147777 Thank you for this article.. I find it very interesting, to compare "sin" and "shame" to Finnish words "synti" and "häpeä".. "Synti" origin is "synty", meaning "birth; genesis" "häpeä" origin is "häpy", meaning "genitals" So.. the origins of the word.. where do they come.. Namasté Jouni Sakari ~AN*IE*MOH~ Thank you for this article.. I find it very interesting, to compare “sin” and “shame” to Finnish words “synti” and “häpeä”..

“Synti” origin is “synty”, meaning “birth; genesis”
“häpeä” origin is “häpy”, meaning “genitals”

So.. the origins of the word.. where do they come..

Namasté
Jouni Sakari
~AN*IE*MOH~

]]> By: Fran Schifferli http://blog.oup.com/2008/09/guilt_shame/#comment-147578 Fran Schifferli Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:33:46 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2088#comment-147578 With regard to your discussion on "shame" etc and the connection with nakedness. It seems very possible to me that the origin of this word goes back to Noah and the story related in the Old Testament (Gen 9:19-24)in which his son, Ham saw him naked. Noah's other sons covered him by walking backwards so as not to see his nakedness. Using Strong's, Ham is Cham (2526) and means to be hot. (It is interesting that embarrasment causes the body to flush with heat.) The story relates that Ham was cursed for his indiscretion sin. I enjoy reading sites such as yours but am continually puzzled by the almost unwillingness of etymologists to consider Hebrew as an origin for words, considering the all pervasive influence the Jews have had on world history and the underlying influence the Bible has had on western society. I am continually finding source words in Strong's for English. The number found excludes coincidence especially when English dictionaries I consult often say 'origin unknown". Consider for example, dawdle 1,walk slowly and idly. b; delay; waste time.(perhapes related to dialect daddle, doodle "idle, daily") (The Australian Concise OD, (abrev.) Who is guessing here? perhaps!? Consider... dadah (daw-daw); a doubtful root; to walk gently: go (softly, with) (Strong's EC of the Bible, no.1718) Thanks for your informative, thought provoking articles. Fran With regard to your discussion on “shame” etc and the connection with nakedness. It seems very possible to me that the origin of this word goes back to Noah and the story related in the Old Testament (Gen 9:19-24)in which his son, Ham saw him naked. Noah’s other sons covered him by walking backwards so as not to see his nakedness. Using Strong’s, Ham is Cham (2526) and means to be hot. (It is interesting that embarrasment causes the body to flush with heat.) The story relates that Ham was cursed for his indiscretion sin.

I enjoy reading sites such as yours but am continually puzzled by the almost unwillingness of etymologists to consider Hebrew as an origin for words, considering the all pervasive influence the Jews have had on world history and the underlying influence the Bible has had on western society.

I am continually finding source words in Strong’s for English. The number found excludes coincidence especially when English dictionaries I consult often say ‘origin unknown”.

Consider for example,
dawdle 1,walk slowly and idly. b; delay; waste time.(perhapes related to dialect daddle, doodle “idle, daily”)
(The Australian Concise OD, (abrev.)

Who is guessing here? perhaps!?
Consider…
dadah (daw-daw); a doubtful root; to walk gently: go (softly, with)
(Strong’s EC of the Bible, no.1718)

Thanks for your informative, thought provoking articles.
Fran

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