Comments on: The Haberdasher Displays His Wares and Escapes http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/ Academic insights for the thinking world. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:48:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Malcolm Dale http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/comment-page-1/#comment-156621 Malcolm Dale Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:40:58 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2007#comment-156621 Today, whilst researching Dale family members in the 16th century I came across an entry in 'The History of the Guild of Merchant Taylors' for 8th October 1586, which suggests that a Henry Dale, a Haberdasher, based in London, was a supplier of gunpowder. Today, whilst researching Dale family members in the 16th century I came across an entry in ‘The History of the Guild of Merchant Taylors’ for 8th October 1586, which suggests that a Henry Dale, a Haberdasher, based in London, was a supplier of gunpowder.

]]> By: suzanne http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/comment-page-1/#comment-156164 suzanne Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:11:55 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2007#comment-156164 I notice the word armourer appears in this article. I am curious about the origins of this word: as it seemed to have very different meanings in France and England and at different times in history. Prior to the 1700's an armourer was a position ship board for the English navy: one in charge of cannons etc. In France: by 1670: armour essentially had stopped being made: any anyway: no one called themselves an armourer: they called themselves after the particular part of the armour they themselves made........ Typically it came to mean gunsmith: but there was no such thing as a gunsmith pre: 1700.........again: a craftsman took the name of the part they alone made. If anything: armourer in French seemed to mean one who "sold" arms...a dealer: primarily in Paris........... and the word was actually armurier. Does anyone know anything more about the use of the word armurier/armourer in French useage between 1600 and 1700? My interest is that it is often attached to French settlers during this time in North America: yet there were clearly no gun facilities at the time: nor horses to shoe.......in general..........and a smith called himself a ferrant........... What on earth was an amurier? I notice the word armourer appears in this article.

I am curious about the origins of this word: as it seemed to have very different meanings in France and England and at different times in history.

Prior to the 1700’s an armourer was a position ship board for the English navy: one in charge of cannons etc.
In France: by 1670: armour essentially had stopped being made: any anyway: no one called themselves an armourer: they called themselves after the particular part of the armour they themselves made……..

Typically it came to mean gunsmith: but there was no such thing as a gunsmith pre: 1700………again: a craftsman took the name of the part they alone made.

If anything: armourer in French seemed to mean one who “sold” arms…a dealer: primarily in Paris………..

and the word was actually armurier.

Does anyone know anything more about the use of the word armurier/armourer in French useage between 1600 and 1700?

My interest is that it is often attached to French settlers during this time in North America: yet there were clearly no gun facilities at the time: nor horses to shoe…….in general……….and a smith called himself a ferrant………..

What on earth was an amurier?

]]> By: Who makes hats? « Oloverhats’s Weblog http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/comment-page-1/#comment-149419 Who makes hats? « Oloverhats’s Weblog Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:01:35 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2007#comment-149419 [...] The term haberdasher refers to one who makes men’s clothing and accessories and is a very old term and of uncertain origin.  It was in use as early as the 14th century and in the middle ages haberdashery included daggers, swords, Milan caps, glasses, spoons, knives, and much more. The original haberdasher was probably a peddler or a badger rather than a hatter.  This blog delves into extensive detail on the origins of the term haberdasher http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/ [...] [...] The term haberdasher refers to one who makes men’s clothing and accessories and is a very old term and of uncertain origin.  It was in use as early as the 14th century and in the middle ages haberdashery included daggers, swords, Milan caps, glasses, spoons, knives, and much more. The original haberdasher was probably a peddler or a badger rather than a hatter.  This blog delves into extensive detail on the origins of the term haberdasher http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/ [...]

]]> By: Haberdasher http://blog.oup.com/2008/08/haberdasher/comment-page-1/#comment-147138 Haberdasher Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:10:13 +0000 http://blog.oup.com/?p=2007#comment-147138 Haberdasher is one of those words you love to say over and over again. :) Haberdasher is one of those words you love to say over and over again. :)

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