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	<title>Comments on: Rachel Carson: Saint or Sinner</title>
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		<title>By: Rickard Berghorn</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2007/03/rachel_carson_s/#comment-157184</link>
		<dc:creator>Rickard Berghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is stupid - excuse me when I say it. Carson criticised the use of DDT _very_ hard, and without any good scientific reason. And se was wrong.

It is not very interesting to point out that she herself perhaps should had accepted limited use in Africa - that is a very tiny nuance. It was because of her quasi-scientific propaganda DDT was banned, and it is as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is stupid &#8211; excuse me when I say it. Carson criticised the use of DDT _very_ hard, and without any good scientific reason. And se was wrong.</p>
<p>It is not very interesting to point out that she herself perhaps should had accepted limited use in Africa &#8211; that is a very tiny nuance. It was because of her quasi-scientific propaganda DDT was banned, and it is as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: LaDonna Benshoof</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2007/03/rachel_carson_s/#comment-112829</link>
		<dc:creator>LaDonna Benshoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suffered from chemical poisoning from the application of 2-4-D and glyphsate spraying by a timber company and the book Silent Spring echoed many of the problems I and my outdoor Aussie dog suffered. I was glad to view the interview on Channel 16 yesterday with Rachel Carson. ladonna benshoof</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suffered from chemical poisoning from the application of 2-4-D and glyphsate spraying by a timber company and the book Silent Spring echoed many of the problems I and my outdoor Aussie dog suffered. I was glad to view the interview on Channel 16 yesterday with Rachel Carson. ladonna benshoof</p>
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		<title>By: David Lance</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2007/03/rachel_carson_s/#comment-13613</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Page 120 of Silent Spring: Rachel Carson explains the lack of young birds by saying: “... [The reproductive capacity of the birds has been so lowered by some environmental agent that there are now almost no annual additions of young to maintain the race. Exactly this sort of situation has been produced artificially in other birds by various experimenters, notably Dr. James DeWitt of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Dr. DeWitt’s now classic experiments on the effects of a series of insecticides on quail and pheasants have established the fact that exposure to DDT or related chemicals, even when doing no observable harm to the parent birds, may seriously affect reproduction. ... For example, quail into whose diet DDT was introduced throughout the breeding season survived and even produced normal numbers of fertile eggs. But few of the eggs hatched”[emphasis added].
 
Carson gives no indication of how many might be considered as “few eggs hatching.” Perhaps she thought that her readers would never see the rather obscure journal in which DeWitt’s results were published in 1956, the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry. Otherwise, she surely would not have so badly misrepresented DeWitt’s results! The dosage he fed the quail was 100 parts per million in all their food every day, which was roughly 3,000 times the daily DDT intake of humans during the years of the greatest DDT use!
 
The quail did not just hatch “a few” of their eggs, as DeWitt’s data clearly reveal (Table 3). As the published data from DeWitt’s experiments show, the “controls” (those quail with no DDT) hatched 83.9 percent of their eggs, while the DDT-fed quail hatched 75 to 80 percent of theirs. I would not call an 80 percent hatch “few,” especially when the controls hatched only 83.9 percent of their eggs.
 
Carson either did not read DeWitt’s article, or she deliberately lied about the results of DeWitt’s experiments on pheasants, which were published on the same page. The “controls” hatched only 57.4 percent of their eggs, while the DDT-fed pheasants, (dosed with 50 ppm of DDT in all of their food during the entire year) hatched 80.6 percent of theirs. After two weeks, the DDT chicks had 100 percent survival, while the control chicks only had 94.8 percent survival, and after 8 weeks the DDT chicks had 93.3 percent survival while the control chicks only had 89.7 percent survival. It was false reporting such as this that caused so many leading scientists in the United States to take Rachel Carson to task.*
 

 
*The above was taken from: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Page 120 of Silent Spring: Rachel Carson explains the lack of young birds by saying: “&#8230; [The reproductive capacity of the birds has been so lowered by some environmental agent that there are now almost no annual additions of young to maintain the race. Exactly this sort of situation has been produced artificially in other birds by various experimenters, notably Dr. James DeWitt of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Dr. DeWitt’s now classic experiments on the effects of a series of insecticides on quail and pheasants have established the fact that exposure to DDT or related chemicals, even when doing no observable harm to the parent birds, may seriously affect reproduction. ... For example, quail into whose diet DDT was introduced throughout the breeding season survived and even produced normal numbers of fertile eggs. But few of the eggs hatched”[emphasis added].</p>
<p>Carson gives no indication of how many might be considered as “few eggs hatching.” Perhaps she thought that her readers would never see the rather obscure journal in which DeWitt’s results were published in 1956, the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry. Otherwise, she surely would not have so badly misrepresented DeWitt’s results! The dosage he fed the quail was 100 parts per million in all their food every day, which was roughly 3,000 times the daily DDT intake of humans during the years of the greatest DDT use!</p>
<p>The quail did not just hatch “a few” of their eggs, as DeWitt’s data clearly reveal (Table 3). As the published data from DeWitt’s experiments show, the “controls” (those quail with no DDT) hatched 83.9 percent of their eggs, while the DDT-fed quail hatched 75 to 80 percent of theirs. I would not call an 80 percent hatch “few,” especially when the controls hatched only 83.9 percent of their eggs.</p>
<p>Carson either did not read DeWitt’s article, or she deliberately lied about the results of DeWitt’s experiments on pheasants, which were published on the same page. The “controls” hatched only 57.4 percent of their eggs, while the DDT-fed pheasants, (dosed with 50 ppm of DDT in all of their food during the entire year) hatched 80.6 percent of theirs. After two weeks, the DDT chicks had 100 percent survival, while the control chicks only had 94.8 percent survival, and after 8 weeks the DDT chicks had 93.3 percent survival while the control chicks only had 89.7 percent survival. It was false reporting such as this that caused so many leading scientists in the United States to take Rachel Carson to task.*</p>
<p>*The above was taken from: <a href="http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/summ02/Carson.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: angus hanton</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2007/03/rachel_carson_s/#comment-8059</link>
		<dc:creator>angus hanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting discussion - especially of the way people still want to misrepresent the messages Rachel Carson was conveying and the questions she asked.  There is a very moving radio discussion on her life on radio 4 which we have linked to from our own Rachel Carson Blog at:
http://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/conservation/rachel-carson-silent-spring/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting discussion &#8211; especially of the way people still want to misrepresent the messages Rachel Carson was conveying and the questions she asked.  There is a very moving radio discussion on her life on radio 4 which we have linked to from our own Rachel Carson Blog at:<br />
<a href="http://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/conservation/rachel-carson-silent-spring/" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodlands.co.uk/blog/conservation/rachel-carson-silent-spring/</a></p>
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		<title>By: University Update</title>
		<link>http://blog.oup.com/2007/03/rachel_carson_s/#comment-446</link>
		<dc:creator>University Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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